Jose Serrano actually said...

We passed an environmental code that would fine a company up to a million dollars if you intentionally dump on our reservation.

Now if no one is going to be found guilty of anything, then what is to stop people from doing it again and again and again.

we do want you to be effective, and we want you to take on new areas.

Well, let me just close with this, there were some folks in the past, including folks in your agency, that didn't want any oversight to take...