Carolyn Maloney actually said...

"I appreciate the leadership and passion of the chairman of this committee, Mr. Cummings."

"I think removing that rating completely--it should not be anywhere--it should be removed, and I think the incentive should be changed to what are you doing to prevent having to go on opioids."

"May I ask a question, with all respect? Why is it difficult? Why is it difficult for your states to have alternatives that could save a life if you kept them off of opioids? Why is it difficult?"

"But I would just like to ask the panel, what about changing the incentive and saying instead of do you have any pain, ask the doctor have you tried every other way to relieve the pain and give the inc..."