Brian Higgins actually said...

"I believe it is important to distinguish the terms 'radicalization' and 'terrorism.'"

"I hope we can have a robust discussion of the existence of these programs as we seek to understand whether post-prison countering violent extremist reentry programs may be helpful in reducing recidivi..."

"these groups are so desperately needed today."

"Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First, just let me thank you, because a lot of what you do is about what didn't happen."