Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez actually said...

And, Mr. Ziegler, when you testified before the Ways and Means Committee, you also testified that you were told that it was then Attorney Ge...

We are here today because Donald Trump is exerting an influence campaign in Congress when he is no longer President of the United States.

Thank you, very much, Mr. Chairman. Good afternoon, Mr. Shapley and Mr. Ziegler, and I want to thank you both for appearing before us today.

And so, some of the events that you discuss in your deposition took place 2, 3, 4 years ago, correct, over the last several years?