William R. Richardson: “This president wants a surge in the war in Iraq. I want a surge on the war on cancer.”

Well, success for me would be a commitment by North Korea to dismantle some--some of their weapons, missiles.

Perhaps a vaguer statement that says tensions are less and the war is over, OK. Maybe. But not as a tradeoff unless there is substantial denuclearization.

My worry is--and before, I think, you came in I said it is better to negotiate with the foreign ministry types in North Korea rather than the intelligence people because they are more flexible.

I would not trade an end to the war treaty or unless there is a denuclearization of sizable numbers of dismantling of weapons and WMD and missiles.