William R. Richardson: “I believe that the North Koreans--we have a different perspective of what denuclearization is.”

I said, look they're not going to fully denuclearize, but I think you can get some good agreements on possibly dismantling some nuclear and missiles.

You have to have verification standards. A lot of inspectors, have them do an inventory of all their nuclear and missile sites.

The U.S. military relationship with South Korea is in our interest, too, and sometimes, I will say, the president says, well, they should pay more.

My worry is--and before, I think, you came in I said it is better to negotiate with the foreign ministry types in North Korea rather than the intelligence people because they are more flexible.