William R. Richardson: “But, politically, if you look at most Democrats, there's strong support for border security, plus a legalization plan.”

I said, look they're not going to fully denuclearize, but I think you can get some good agreements on possibly dismantling some nuclear and missiles.

I believe that the North Koreans--we have a different perspective of what denuclearization is.

Well, success for me would be a commitment by North Korea to dismantle some--some of their weapons, missiles.

I suspect the most, the glaring and strongest sanction that would be proportional would be the banking sanctions.