Tom Udall actually said...

I remember being on the side of a fire, I'm sure Senator Murkowski has had this experience.

It's also important to emphasize that there's a great need to reduce the severity of wildfires proactively.

Los Alamos National Lab has developed technology for geothermal, and there is going to be the creation of geothermal jobs in New Mexico.

Senator Murkowski was pointing out to me that in some cases the ski industry is actually working hard to save individual trees.