04/01/2009
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"What we should be thinking about is how to better secure the border in the sense of diminishing the flows of bad things while facilitating the flows of good things."
"The 5,000 cases, how old are those?"
"our National Labs--which are the crown jewels of our Nation's research system--are active in efforts to promote cybersecurity."
"I very much appreciate your answer, but it is very, very difficult, I think, to have a transparent debate about secret programs approved by a secret court issuing secret court orders based on secret i..."