10/17/2016
https://www.congress.gov...
"We're running out of time."
"Saying 'whole-of-government approach' is not a substitute for action."
"I fear that the phrase 'whole-of-government approach' has become a catchall for 'it's someone else's job.'"
"I think that's good news to all of us here who recognize, as you've said, that we've sort of taken a break from modernization for far too long."