Ben Ray Luján actually said...

The science on this matter is clear--spill is the most effective and safest means of getting salmon past the federal dams.

What we should be talking about today and in the future is the moral question. Eleven people's lives were taken.

I appreciate the character you are showing today, with the type of questioning that you are having to go through.

Well, I appreciate that, Inspector General. And you know, Mr. Chairman, before I yield back, again, words matter.