Jeanne Shaheen actually said...

I think we can benefit from that.

I would hope that all of us can try and work on that as we think about how we encourage small businesses with their use of energy.

Every small business, whether in manufacturing, in retail services, or even agriculture, can benefit from energy efficiency.

So, in order to get it more at scale, we have got to be able to take it out of the five or six states that are doing that kind of work and p...