06/08/2010
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"I think it behooves us all not to engage in name calling of those officials who are trying to carry out the work."
"So if we were going to go forward and try and include energy efficiency as part of a clean energy standard how would you suggest we do that?"
"In addition to appliance standards what are other areas where we should be focusing on in terms of energy efficiency gains to achieve the greatest savings?"
"I think it's helpful to have an alternative that's better."