Jeanne Shaheen actually said...

Thank you, Senator Shaheen and Ayotte, members of the committee, for inviting me here today to speak and to join in this discussion.

I would encourage all of you to talk to the House members, which is where the bill is held up.

The success rate of their SBIR applications has become sufficiently low, 15 percent for Phase I for many of these, that applicants no longer...

I think that is a really good point.