Jeff Fortenberry actually said...

Specifics, even if they have to be in a bit of a broad range, I understand that, but tens of billions of dollars is too broad.

We cannot sustain our current trajectory--yet at the same time to deliver smart and effective government services.

So you want to keep it as a library, that is what you are saying?

A couple of quick points. One is, you mentioned that the effect of increased taxes and these possible spending reductions would have about a...