Jeff Fortenberry: “It is a, again, I think it is very consistent with what you are trying to do in terms of updating the VA.”

But the heart of the matter that came out of that meeting of not being properly informed about the hold was, what are the metrics that we are using here to determine whether or not we are being successful?

I wanted to send you a video because we do have something hard to tell you.

I really appreciate that. I think this whole committee very much does.

The idea here is to go deeper in terms of place-based strategies, fix the broken border situation.