Don Bacon: “The more the White House pushes back on this, it's – it just looks bad, right?”

He doesn't communicate it well. As you mentioned, he makes light of the affordability question. And we do have an affordability problem.

What good is it to force out folks who’ve been here legally, who are working, who are part of our community?

I heard all the time, ‘do something’ — yeah, well, I’ve got to do something smart.

[I]t's important to put down a clear, bipartisan marker that we follow state certifications, seat certified winners and preserve trust in the institution.