Chuck Hagel: “The United States will continue to take steps to impede the growth of these programs.”

It is a measurement. But I don't think it is the measurement. I mean, I was in a war with a lot of body counts every day. We lost everyone.

I think that is really the essence of the ultimate objective we'd like to see in Syria.

I'd be giving the same answer. I hope not.

The President has said, many times, still strongly believes, that Assad has lost the legitimacy to govern his own people.