Kent Conrad: “There are not the votes in the United States Senate for the public option. There never have been.”

All the talk in the world doesn't matter if you don't actually get something done in the real world.

I do, and I made that argument to the commission, and others on the commission made some of the points that you are making now.

It takes guts to do that, and Chairman Arrington, you have certainly led the charge on having a commission.

The one thing I know for sure is that what is happening now is not working.