Kent Conrad: “I appreciate you being a partner in this effort to really get serious about our deficit and debt.”

You know, we did have discussions. One of the things on this commission, because of its makeup and the diversity of views on this commission, and the extraordinary difficulty of coming together on Social Security, which we thought was the…

I would just say our Retirement Security Plans and our Retirement Security Clearinghouses are responding to the underlying dynamic that Professor Mead has done such a good job in describing.

This Retirement Security Plan structure that we have suggested I think would go a long way toward dealing with these issues.

I do, and I made that argument to the commission, and others on the commission made some of the points that you are making now.