Kent Conrad: “It would be a profound mistake not to have a plan to deal with this longer-term debt challenge.”

We admire that, and I can say on both sides of the aisle, people recognize the job he did as Budget Committee Chairman.

I do, and I made that argument to the commission, and others on the commission made some of the points that you are making now.

The one thing I know for sure is that what is happening now is not working.

It takes guts to do that, and Chairman Arrington, you have certainly led the charge on having a commission.