Kent Conrad: “Better outcomes, less cost.”

I do, and I made that argument to the commission, and others on the commission made some of the points that you are making now.

If we are going to make this whole system solvent, it is going to take everybody to give a little bit.

There is going to be a 23-percent cut across the board by 2034.

It was incredibly important that we not only made Social Security solvent, but we lifted the bottom 20 percent dramatically.