Kent Conrad: “Let's get real. Yes, we have to do spending and yes, we have to do revenue.”

It takes guts to do that, and Chairman Arrington, you have certainly led the charge on having a commission.

I do, and I made that argument to the commission, and others on the commission made some of the points that you are making now.

We did a whole series of things in our Social Security reform not to discourage people from working, but to encourage them to continue working if they are able to do so.

I thought he was an outstanding Committee Chairman, and my former intern has succeeded him in his Congressional seat.