Kent Conrad: “My own view is it will probably be in that 4 percent of GDP range as they do their own rescoring of all of this.”

We admire that, and I can say on both sides of the aisle, people recognize the job he did as Budget Committee Chairman.

We ought to reestablish this benefit for survivors and those affected by disability.

That I like to call the 'Conrad provision.'

I wish I could look you in the eye and say, you know, if we just had the will, we could reverse this, and we could go back to a time when defined benefit plans were on the increase. I do not think that is in the cards.