Kent Conrad: “I think they have got a heavy burden to carry to make the argument that we should add substantial costs to health care.”

All the talk in the world doesn't matter if you don't actually get something done in the real world.

I wish I could look you in the eye and say, you know, if we just had the will, we could reverse this, and we could go back to a time when defined benefit plans were on the increase. I do not think that is in the cards.

I do, and I made that argument to the commission, and others on the commission made some of the points that you are making now.

I urge you to vote for the confirmation of Dave Turk. I urge you to do it quickly.