Kent Conrad: “The key is getting it out into the economy now.”

I do, and I made that argument to the commission, and others on the commission made some of the points that you are making now.

What is realistic is to deal with these changes in a way that does expand access, that does expand the opportunity for people to participate in a retirement plan at work.

You know, we did have discussions. One of the things on this commission, because of its makeup and the diversity of views on this commission, and the extraordinary difficulty of coming together on Social Security, which we thought was the…

If we are going to make this whole system solvent, it is going to take everybody to give a little bit.