Kent Conrad: “We have doubled the national debt over the last 9 years. We are getting ready to double it again over the next 8 years.”

We did a whole series of things in our Social Security reform not to discourage people from working, but to encourage them to continue working if they are able to do so.

I do, and I made that argument to the commission, and others on the commission made some of the points that you are making now.

Can I just respond quickly, Mr. Chairman, and say when Simpson-Bowles went down, a group of six of us in the Senate, three Democrats, three Republicans, were asked by leadership to see if we couldn't come up with a way forward to adopt the…

The one thing I know for sure is that what is happening now is not working.