Kent Conrad: “This is a very bad place to be.”

Can I just respond quickly, Mr. Chairman, and say when Simpson-Bowles went down, a group of six of us in the Senate, three Democrats, three Republicans, were asked by leadership to see if we couldn't come up with a way forward to adopt the…

All the talk in the world doesn't matter if you don't actually get something done in the real world.

The one thing I know for sure is that what is happening now is not working.

I do, and I made that argument to the commission, and others on the commission made some of the points that you are making now.