Kent Conrad: “I have warned my colleagues many times that the debt is the threat. I believe that deeply.”

It takes guts to do that, and Chairman Arrington, you have certainly led the charge on having a commission.

We did a whole series of things in our Social Security reform not to discourage people from working, but to encourage them to continue working if they are able to do so.

All the talk in the world doesn't matter if you don't actually get something done in the real world.

I do, and I made that argument to the commission, and others on the commission made some of the points that you are making now.