Kent Conrad: “I believe it fundamentally puts at risk the economic security of the country.”

All the talk in the world doesn't matter if you don't actually get something done in the real world.

I wish I could look you in the eye and say, you know, if we just had the will, we could reverse this, and we could go back to a time when defined benefit plans were on the increase. I do not think that is in the cards.

It takes guts to do that, and Chairman Arrington, you have certainly led the charge on having a commission.

I do, and I made that argument to the commission, and others on the commission made some of the points that you are making now.