Heidi Heitkamp actually said...

"It just kind of boggles my mind that, from somebody who used to run a State agency and when the State auditor gave me a recommendation, man, we turned Heaven and Earth to get it done."

"Yes, and I think Gene made such an excellent point, that not only do we see dollar returns, but we see returns in better services."

"How do we change that attitude?"

"This type of oversight is critical and valuable."