Heidi Heitkamp: “I would resist a little bit what you are saying, Rachel, because I am a huge proponent of the Ex-Im Bank.”

Less than 10% this say this is about government. It`s about government regulation.

People who are going to buy into carbon markets, they want certainty.

Oh, I think it`s absolutely self-preservation. They see the handwriting on the wall that in the annals of history, this is not going to look well.

Whoever wants in these conservation programs should get in these conservation programs and up the ante and create greater incentives.