Heidi Heitkamp actually said...

I can only tell you as an attorney general in the 1990s, these numbers shouldn't shock me.

I only have so much time, Mr. Hochberg, so do you think you can achieve a 25-percent target in this period of time that we have given you in...

Finally, obviously, there is a lot of concern--and I think the Chairman expressed some legitimate concern--about reforms.

I think it has created controversy here, and as a result, the Kirk-Heitkamp bill addresses this very issue