Byron Dorgan actually said...

I am very concerned about the budget in some areas, concerned about the proposal for cuts in construction programs for tribal schools, jails...

I am going to intend, as my colleagues will, I am sure, to push as hard as I can for fairness and for meeting the promises this Country has ...

I understand that, but I'm talking about experience in the air. There's no--I've been in the simulator--there's no ice in the simulator.

And it seems to me to be pretty persuasive evidence that you've got to make things happen.