Byron Dorgan actually said...

This is a hearing of the subcommittee of the Senate Commerce Committee, the Subcommittee on Aviation.

I mean, we have--in fact, I've written about one of the carriers that flies an empty Airbus 320 to El Salvador for repair.

I think that decision was the correct one at the time, and I think it remains correct, that the FAA needs to be the principal enforcer.

The actual transcript is of a copilot that appears to me to have had minimum training in icing conditions.