Byron Dorgan actually said...

This is a heavy lift. This is something that needs to be done.

The efficiencies that would be driven from a non-profit corporation...would provide funding as well for excellent and stable and professiona...

I know the word 'privatization' has been used. I did not use it.

You know, I do not know that I can offer you much advice except to say we have painted ourselves into a fiscal policy corner.