Byron Dorgan actually said...

It is a mess, and a big problem, and a big bureaucracy that does not want to change.

trying to move things through OMB is a little like walking through wet cement.

You say the trend is positive. So if we're not galloping along at least do you think, most of you think, we're at least trotting along to ma...

I think it's really helpful to have had this hearing to keep pressure and pushing and try to understand how do we make this user friendly.