Byron Dorgan: “obviously the opposition has more time. If they are prepared to yield, I will just make some observations for a couple…”

“obviously the opposition has more time. If they are prepared to yield, I will just make some observations for a couple of minutes. Let me say that I always find it difficult to disagree with my friend. And I sort of have the code here in the Senate over the years. If they say you are respected, that means they think they are going to beat you by 5 votes. If they say you are articulate, they think they are going to beat you by 10 votes. If they say you are passionate, they think they are going to clobber you by 20 votes. I understand the language here a little bit. Let me say this: What if this were a proposal for guest Senators. There wouldn't be one vote for it, would there? But there are no guest Senators. No one here is going to have their job threatened by all of this. This is about guest workers. My colleague says we can't shut down the border, that there is going to be illegal immigration. Let us be real about this. So the proposition of being real is, let us label those who are going to be illegal ``legal.'' That is the way to deal with this. If we can't shut down the border, they are going to come across anyway, so let us call them ``legal.'' They won't have to call them ``illegal.'' I don't understand that at all. There are 11 million to 12 million people who are here illegally who this bill is going to say we will give a legal approach to, or an approach to establish legality, and that is not enough. That is not enough.…”