Byron Dorgan actually said...

What mechanisms exist to try to detect the formation of an ice jam?

The issue of dredging is important. I mean, that's not a new issue for any of us.

You see that the dilemma here is that, I think, there's general understanding in this room that debris is a problem.

Is my understanding correct that there's been a reconnaissance study on that and to move to the next stage would require a local sponsor?