Rick Perry: “I'm reminded of a Kenny Rogers song when he talked about you need to know when to hold them and when to fold them.”

I hope what we can agree upon is that the 403 that I put forward was a way to kick start a national discussion about resiliency and about reliability of the grid.

Washington, when they see a problem, it imposes these top-down mandates to what are uniquely local challenges.

I hope we can agree that maybe it's time for us to have a red team approach to this, sit them in the room, and let's listen to what they come up with.

the government must ensure that the U.S. has baseload capability that only coal and nuclear can bring. The wind doesn't always blow. The sun doesn't always shine and gas pipelines are interruptible.