Nathan A. Sales: “Congressman, that's not normal, which is why the White House retracted that order that you referred to.”

I asked staff to give me a figure, 1.3 million gotaways over the course of the Biden administration.

I think they are, Congressman, in a number of different ways. The withdrawal from Afghanistan was an enormous morale boost for our adversaries.

They are not a reliable counterterrorism partner. So I would instead focus on, No. 1, continuing to apply sanctions pressure to the Taliban until they uphold their commitments under the Doha Agreement to break with terrorists.

Can you imagine what would happen--I'm interested--if we were to start granting those from Gaza access into the United States?