Judd Gregg: “I think the language, as presently drafted, is in your definitional section of the amendment where you find ``(ii)…”

“I think the language, as presently drafted, is in your definitional section of the amendment where you find ``(ii) (II).'' It says: a group health plan that is maintained by one or more employers or employee organizations described in [this section]. That essentially encompasses all union plans. Very few union plans do not use a third-party administrator, very few. So I think you want to tighten up that definition to make it clear that you are applying it to the self-insured, self-funded, self-administered plans, and then you would be picking up the same people that you are picking up under the Wal-Mart exception.”