Conrad Burns: “I think over time we should keep reinforcing it, and eventually get to a Category 5. That way we can spread the cost out…”

I think those people just come up with reasons to make it tough.

I know how contagious it can be whenever -- whenever everybody gets together.

Sometimes I think it's good money thrown after bad to be honest with you, in some of these activities.

I can't help but think that this, if successful, they call it the Airship Advanced Concept Technology Demonstration, you cut back a little bit on its funding but I happen to think that, you know, when we started to talk about space and…