Jon Tester: “I think you guys have been the gold standard. I appreciate the fact that you're in the position that you're in and I…”

There's plenty of examples of it. The Mission Act is a prime example. The fastest growing part of the V.A. budget. Why? Because we privatizing V.A. health care and its costing us more money, not less.

I would say two things. Number one this administration has totally blown the opportunity to make government more efficient by going in with a -- with a -- with a meat cleaver and just hack up agencies.

This has been a rubber stamp Congress so far.

If that was possible it would already be done.