Jon Tester actually said...

It isn't all about money. I think a lot of it has to do about training.

Are there people that you have oversight over, yourselves included, that have VA credit cards; and are there rules as to how those cards can...

I mean, one of the things that really gets the VA off to a bad start is if the first person they talk to is a machine.

I really do think it revolves around health care.