Jon Tester: “So where is the science coming from?”

I think we need to take these things seriously. I think the president and I think, more importantly, the military are taking it very, very seriously.

This has been a rubber stamp Congress so far.

If that was possible it would already be done.

I would say two things. Number one this administration has totally blown the opportunity to make government more efficient by going in with a -- with a -- with a meat cleaver and just hack up agencies.