Jon Tester: “They ought to be safe for America's roads.”

Was totally figuratively speaking.

In the end, do you think you can deliver this at or less of a cost the pipeline would have run you?

There's plenty of examples of it. The Mission Act is a prime example. The fastest growing part of the V.A. budget. Why? Because we privatizing V.A. health care and its costing us more money, not less.

I think it'd be a mistake, a -- really a mistake for national security and for food security.