Jon Tester: “Our goal is to actually have the Veteran-Directed Care rolled out to all facilities by the end of FY '24.”

That's between me and a ballot box.

I would say two things. Number one this administration has totally blown the opportunity to make government more efficient by going in with a -- with a -- with a meat cleaver and just hack up agencies.

It is so really, really important that you guys have the home Senators on board for this stuff.

No, I don't think so. I think you just got to make sure you know what you're doing, what you stand for and what you've accomplished.