Jon Tester: “So you think you will win that suit?”

Not at all. Uh-uh. No. I mean, the case was laid out and I was part of the jury and make the call.

I would say two things. Number one this administration has totally blown the opportunity to make government more efficient by going in with a -- with a -- with a meat cleaver and just hack up agencies.

In the end, do you think you can deliver this at or less of a cost the pipeline would have run you?

These are important bills that need to get advanced, and today is the start of that.