04/17/2013
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"OK. So, what is different today? I mean, what is different today that this same thing is not going to happen again after Senator Portman and I start thinking about doing other things?"
"Are you reasonably confident today that the verification methods that are in place within your office are adequate and appropriate at this point in time?"
"Yes. Thank you, Senator Portman."
"this kind of abuse of a program needs to stop, especially--it needs to stop any time."